Crank gears may need to be honed to fit some aftermarket crankshafts, Pontiac Pro Billet Timing Set, Billet Gears, 9 Keyway Crank Sprocket Pontiac Firebird Generation Specific Discussions, First Generation Pontiac Firebird (1967 - 1969), The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, Fourth Generation Pontiac Firebird (1993 - 2002), Second Generation Pontiac Firebird (1970 - 1981), VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Here is a quick update on the bird with some pics. Your email address will not be published. Crank gears may need to be honed to fit some aftermarket crankshafts, Pontiac Pro Billet Timing Set, Billet Gears, 9 Keyway Crank Sprocket Shorter Length, Billet Steel Sprockets, Pontiac, V8, Set, Estimated Ship Date: I'm not asking for much. You are using an out of date browser. #1 and 2 are not running.plugs are still white. On Pontiacs, the #1 cylinder is on the drivers side, which is furthest from the timing marks on the damper. 2 cylinder does not fire. pipes dont get hot. Q: I have a 1980 Pontiac Firebird with a 400-cubic-inch engine out of a 1978 Trans Am. just rebuit 1969 gto 400,stroked to 496,comp cans 51-433-9 roller,hei distributor,new wires,plugs, engine runs but no. Loud clicking coming from the water pump area like the chain is slapping against the side wall of the timing cover. I have replaced the timing set on a sb Chevy but not on a Pontiac engine, anyone have tips and tricks for me to make the jobe easier??? you got it, remove the pump, the front damper, and the timing cover. 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Good pics, but looking at that engine and the corrosion in the water jackets, i would just rebuild that motor. Its usually a good idea to go ahead and change the front crank seal while everything is apart. 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A forum community dedicated to hot rod owners and enthusiasts. Today, Timing Chain and Gear Set, Performer-Link, Double Roller, Iron/Steel Sprockets, Pontiac, V8, Set, 4.67 out of 5 stars how about a new camshaft and lifters and of course new timing chain and gears and throw in a new water pump, Heck no i love spending time in my garage when i can. A damper with this problem can fly apart at any time. [] Download Image More @ http://www.onallcylinders.com [], Your email address will not be published. shouldn't be to much slack in the chain if any. Learn how your comment data is processed. Aug 16, 2022 Pontiac 326, 350, 389, 400, 455 Stock Replacement Timing Set. Terms of Use | Privacy and Security | Site Accessibility ( 24 ), Estimated Ship Date: You can order this part by Contacting Us. JavaScript is disabled. I went ahead and pulled the fuel pump off and the chain feels tight. 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Whatever needs to be done will be. Thanks for the info. ( 1 ), Timing Chain and Gears, Single Roller, Steel Sprockets, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Set, Timing Set, Double Roller Chain, 0.010 in. .010 Short for Line Bore Blocks I just noticed you are in South Africa! A water pump is much easier to repair and replace than the timing chain on a Pontiac motor. The distributor is from the Firebirds original 301 engine and the damper is from one of the 400s. The engine was built with parts from two different 400s, and the timing has never been right. A forum community dedicated to Pontiac Firebird owners and enthusiasts. compression. and as long as u put them dot to dot, should be fine, correct they come as a kit, but if you can go for the extra bucks get a double roller timing chain, here is a link to some choices, Thats one thing i have always like about older GM vehicles in general, as long as drive train is good, usualy only costs about 30 bux to fix everything else!! JavaScript is disabled. What engine(s) are you looking at? The engine is in the car. The distributor from the 301 should fit the 400 with no problem. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. if ordered today, Timing Set, Double Roller Chain, 0.005 in. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Stay Updated with Emails from Summit Racing. ( 9 ), Timing Chain and Gear Set, Billet, Double Roller, Billet Steel Sprockets, Pontiac, V8, Set, 4.6 out of 5 stars Looks like this should be a simple fix to replace the water pump. It looks like the noise is coming from the water pump. ( 14 ), Timing Chain and Gear Set, Single Roller, Iron/Steel Sprockets, Chevy, OE Roller Cam, V8, Set, 4.67 out of 5 stars The outer ring of the harmonic damper may have slipped, causing the timing marks to move around. engine swapped into a 1980 Firebird. Crank gears may need to be honed to fit some aftermarket crankshafts, Pontiac Pro Billet Timing Set, Billet Gears, 9 Keyway Crank Sprocket Give the tech folks at Summit Racing a call, 330-630-0240, theyll be able to better help troubleshoot over the phone. Thanks again. We will see what engineering says if I need new lifters, and if the cam is in spec. On most V8 engines, timing is checked on the #1 cylinder because it is the first in the firing order. The timing chain is way to loose so it gets replaced but what about the timing gear set should they be replaced also? Aug 19, 2022 I'll be tairing into it once the new parts arrive.