The only things the team felt needed improvement was the bevel adjustment which seem overly complicated, and the team would like Makita to consider using the blade shadow light vs the laser. Not sure Id ever need a cordless chop saw though. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I believe hitachi uses this in some models as well. Milwaukees first cordless miter saw never made it here either. On the Makita there was no slop in the saw head, the bevel and angle mechanisms reeked of quality, and the miter head and slide locking pins are the nicest design weve seen on a saw. : Read more about Rob, http://www.aconcordcarpenter.com/@https://twitter.com/robertrobillardRob Robillard, Yall are number one for boots-on-the-ground qualified, and committed to in-depth testing! Your email address will not be published. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. You want to pull this out and then rotate it so the tab is pointing up. After a full day of running performance tests, the team spent several hours in the shop testing and ranking the saws in seven [6] categories including: We weighed each saw, and carried the saws upstairs, through doorways, transported one-handed to open doors or gates, and loaded/unloaded the saw into a work vehicle. Sawzall blades and hole saws I go Milwaukee. Specific differences in the saws are listed below. As you can imagine, the saw with the greatest watt-hr battery theoretically has a leg up on its competition for run-time cuts. Forward Rail Design We found the Makita and Metabo HPT forward rail design to operate smoothly. If SBD-DeWalt can keep the rail-forward design for those and improve on the quality. But it would have to be a 10 inch slider, double compound (or double bevel I guess whatever the term is). The Makita saw won the features section due to a combination of their maximum angle/bevel cuts, double dust port, wireless vacuum activation, excellent outriggers, and forward rail design. Unfortunately, sliding 90 degree cuts were cupped just slightly, but enough to see when holding up to the light with a straight edge. Ill probably get the 40 volt hammer drill just to see what it can do. 1-866-577-3014 We checked the calibration of the saws out of the box, recorded our findings, and then calibrated the saws, noting the level of difficulty to get them tuned up. The team felt that the adjustments were easy to use and precise, and the saw head was stiff with no slop. They both have brushless motors. Framers or other craftsmen that are not too concerned with the finest accuracy come to mind. We placed the flat edge onto the table and first looked for any light that could shine between the table surface and the stainless flat edge. 90-Degree Cross Cut For this test, we set the saw to the factory 90-degree setting for a cross-cut. We never have and never will accept payment in exchange for a positive review. The third place was Metabo HPT with 180 cuts. The Milwaukee dust port is set back approximately 8-inches from the back of the blade when the head of the saw is pulled fully forward on the rails. When equipped with a 9.0 ah [or higher] battery this saw crushes run-time. @boschtoolsna bla, Brought out the big guy ( Dewalt 10) for rippin, We dont use a framing nailer often in commercia, I know battery powered nailers are all the rage bu, This website uses cookies to improve your experience. Makita Auto-Start Wireless System The Makita offers an auto-Start Wireless System (AWS) that enables wireless power-on/power-off with an AWS-equipped dust extractor. Then we used a Wixey digital gauge to measure the degrees between the table of the saw and the body of the blade. We made five timed cuts in 7-1/4 LVL lumber and recorded the average time. A brushless 7-1/4 slider? I dont know Ive seen a european or asian mitre saw that does double compound. Operators were instructed to start the saw and bring it up to speed. Are you sure you want to remove the following product from the cart? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Dewalt FlexVolt 10 and 8.5 Sliding Miter Saws in Europe, New Milwaukee M18 Fuel 12 Brushless Miter Saw with One-Key, New Makita 18V X2 12 Sliding Miter Saws, XSL07, XSL08, Ryobi Launches New 18V Cordless Sliding Miter Saw, PBT01B. In some cases, we also have advertising or affiliate relationships with manufacturers and retailers of products and services we review. There seems to be a problem serving the request at this time, One stop shop for all things from your favorite brand, {"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}, DEWALT DWS779 12" Double Bevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw, DEWALT 20V MAX (DCS361M1) 7-1/4-Inch Miter Saw with Battery & Charger. The ergonomics evaluation in this section is purely subjective and based on the opinions of the testing crew. Makita knows saws! The fixed, rail-forward design like these euro models have (and the festool kapex) seems way better, especially for compact saws. And I Ive used them all, that Milwaukee fuel impact is a serious tool, but almost too much. We measured any gap between the fence and the flat edge and noted the maximum reading from the feeler gauges. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. Its a hundred dollars more than the Milwaukee, but the team felt its better built, loaded with features, and has outstanding dust collection capability. We turned the Bridge City flat edge and held it up to the lower part of each saws fence. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Unfortunately, that has been the case. I was really surprised at the poor quality packaging. The forward rail made their 10 inch go off balance when pulled forward. We all know that dust inevitably finds its way beyond the work area and settles on all horizontal surfaces and duct-work. Its very easy to see the cutting line when the piece of wood is set against the fence of the saw, allowing you to make a smooth, accurate cut exactly where you need it. The base of the box was taped to the top with single strip of packing tape wrapped around the outside. Theres not a great sense of urgency for me to own one as of yet. The forward rails also take off significantly less space behind the saw. Additionally, when remodeling in someones home, an effective dust extraction system is a SOLID tactic to prevent dust from spreading to other areas of the home. But the slim chance of me buying one just is now null. If and when Im using that tool, its almost guaranteed I have easy power. So Ill give Makita one more chance on that, maybe when the 40v, but then Im going to Ridgid. While this may be an unnecessary frustration for professional users, a single bevel saw is simpler, cheaper, more portable, and better for smaller DIY projects. In second place was the Makita with 203 cuts. Your email address will not be published. The transmitter and adapter are optional and do cost more money but the convenience, long-term time savings, and efficiency make it an investment worth considering. AC / DC Option The Metabo HPT is the only miter saw of these three with the capability to run on battery or corded power. Theres very few offerings by any of the manufacturers that are so good that you should consider buying into a different platform. It would be my go to saw for sure in probably 90% of my projects. This size saw will probably fit your needs whether you are a professional contractor investing in a new miter saw for speed and accuracy, a homeowner seeking the safety and accuracy of a miter saw, or a woodworker looking to upgrade a shop saw. Makita recognizing this move towards more efficient dust extraction worked to improve their dust collecting process. While Milwaukee took first place, wed be remiss to talk about the very close second place Makita saw. I feel it needs to still be dual battery 120vmax and corded/ cordless but I imagine it will be a 60v max and have no AC adapter. I just recently got back into construction after 17yrs.I grew up with my father running a cabinet shop using the 9-volt lineup when they were new. The portability factor of the cordless model is nice, but at 60+ lbs I suspect most will do whatever they can to avoid hauling it around. Bring the saw forward, make the cut, wait for the blade to stop, reset, and repeat. Does what I need it to. We waited for the blade to come to a complete stop, indexed the material, and then started a fresh cut. We derive the watt-hrs by multiplying the load voltage by the amp-hours. Lets take a closer look at some of the types of cuts and applications youll commonly perform with a miter saw. Ill wait patiently for the prices to drop. Those dust ports, like many LEDs, neither worked well nor are they efficient. The problem was the rest of it was built poorly like the mitre angle indicator being a cheap sticker that wasnt even placed in the right spot. Compound Miter Saw I loved it Super compact! Dust Collection In the past, dust collection was not a particularly important focus for tool manufacturers. The best-priced 10-inch miter saw was the Milwaukee at $ 499.00 coming in $20.00 less than the Metabo HPT saw which is priced at $ 519.00. I wonder why US users dont likethat type of design, with both Dewalt models and the older Milwaukee model having internal vertical rail sliding system. Whether its due to bad design or poor packaging that allows the unit to get damaged in shipment, I dont know. And theyre all pretty much using my Makita lineup for circular saw cutting, mitering, pneumatic nailing, concrete chipping/drilling. Save up to $50 on Reconditioned - Use Code: SAVERECON. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. Ultimately, that has me looking at either the CORDED LS1219L for about $600 OR the opposite end of the spectrum: a compact cordless miter saw like Dewalts DCS361B 7 1/4. But Ive used all the others, dewalt, milwaukee, rigid, Hitachi. The team was unanimous in choosing the 10-inch Milwaukee miter saw as the best-value miter saw. Enter your email address and we'll let you know when it's available, selected This greatly increases the cutting capacity of the saw, allowing you to cut through much thicker pieces of material. This is the same problem that is widely reported with the 1019L. They got 16 circ saws so you know that they can make a slider miter. Well before the release oftheir M18 Fuel cordless miter saw, Milwaukee came out with a different design in Europe, with an 8.5 blade size. Bottom line is it makes the most sense to go with the tool that matches your battery platform. From carpenters working in finished spaces, to shop workers who want to reduce the amount of airborne dust in their environment, knowing how well a saw will integrate with a vacuum is an important measure of performance for any user. 10.5 saw has a cut capacity of 10.63 wide and 2.44 deep at 90. But these Makita miters are one of the few exceptions. Its no surprise that the 10-inch Makita miter did so well, they have a long history of making quality carpentry tools ~ ROB. I have the all the 18 volt X2 and thats far and away more than youre ever likely to need. Miter saws are available in a wide variety of corded and cordless options from leading brands such as DeWALT, Makita, Bosch, Metabo HPT, and more. If Im looking to buy a larger miter saw than 7.25, I would more than likely pass on the 10 & get the 12 . Awesome write up, as always. Its a solid unit and seems very well made. And those Bosch SDS max masonry bits are legit. For this installment of our Best Cordless Miter Saw, we took a look at the top three 10-inch cordless sliding miter saws. And also that way the size difference as well as the price difference between 10 & 16 would be more economical. We looked at the following areas: Table Flatness For table flatness, we used a Bridge City Tool Works 24 inch stainless steel flat edge. For more information, check out our. I still have yet to see a 12 that can cut a 66 or LVL without having to flip it. The Metabo HPT has a 2-inch port that is in line and 2-1/4 back from the bade. I love that little miter saw, but there are aspects I absolutely hate, such as changing the blade. We would categorize our tools as either expense or capital items. I dont see how its wise for Dewalt keeping them out of the ??USA??. As weve stated, there are hundreds of ways to compare tools. Let alone double and slider. Now brushless but with the same vibration as its predecessor. I have now learned from Makita that there is no hard stop at the 90 degree vertical bevel. If compact and lightweight is the goal, those 7 1/4 inch sliders offer a lot in terms of cutting capacity. We timed 5 cuts per saw and took the average time. 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